![]() Usually doesn't take more than 10 minutes a day in experience, if the tooling you have is good enough. In practice, you're closer to a kindergarten teacher than to the "landed gentry". well you might have only reddit/discord mods (and their bloated mod teams) for reference. ![]() If you think being a mod is enjoying power. To give you an idea, I've been a mod on-and-off on several communities for the past decade (not Reddit, mostly small Discord servers for homebrew projects and a couple of IRC chats) - for the most part, "being a mod" just translates to "check recent userlog to ban obvious spam, tell people to stop butting heads constantly, be welcoming to the newbies". It can work easily for smaller communities, it just won't work for massive ones. It's really expensive to run a general purpose platform (not to mention difficult since Masnick's Impossibility Theorem), to the point where I'd call it almost inherently unsustainable. The main problem is that I don't think a non-profit could realistically meet the cost required to actually run a platform like this. You had one guy/girl who operated the entire thing, asked for maybe 100-200 bucks a year to keep the server lights on and the community would fund that and it'd stay in the air. I mean, technically that's how most old-school forums operated in practice. : HN being the latter, mostly existing to market YC startups and because paulg wanted a discussion forum. : (formerly known as GIFT or Greater Internet Fuckwad Theorem.) ![]() Maybe that's alright? Centralized social media that tries to appeal to everyone may just have been a mistake to begin with. The closest we have right now as a solution to marry the self-managed forums of old with centralized services is the fediverse, but explaining it to people is often considered to be difficult enough that it probably won't grab mainstream appeal.Īnd y'know. ![]() Their state is honestly more unnatural than you'd think, but it's what most users gravitated towards. Twitter/Facebook/Reddit attempted to unnaturally cannabilize those communities by moving everything in their walled gardens (alongside a lucky break due to Tapatalk killing the ability for traditional forums to move to mobile) and then trying to extract money from them. Those communities will keep existing until they simply burn out (the natural lifecycle) and the last couple mods just quietly close the place down. The problem is simply scale - there's plenty of niche communities for various interests who are likely to not fall victim to the process due to either being non-profit or existing perpendicular to a business' actual revenue stream. the problem isn't technical and can't be technically solved.) ![]() (And just to head this off - automated techniques like karma and "votes" sound great in theory but in practice enable all sorts of abuse. Someone needs to moderate those spaces and Masnicks Theorem states that any form of content moderation at scale doesn't properly work because nobody can agree on what "bad behavior" even is outside the blatantly obvious like automated spam. As it turns out, when we're given a slight bit of anonymity (in the "my name and face aren't attached to this" sense, not in the "no consistent identity" sense, aka "crypto won't solve this either"), the barrier to being an asshole becomes significantly lower. They could have been a great steward of the internet (and made money doing it!), but instead they decided to attack their community of moderators (the same insult they hurl at moderators, saying they are attacking their community of users!)ĭiscord, for its faults, does not have the same issues.īecause the problem isn't technical, it's well, human. Not all these reasons apply to everyone, but at least one of them applies to most people protesting. Breaking the illusion that users ever owned their data (posts, comments) and communities. A decade of broken promises on feature development, trust n safety failures, half baked features that no one asked for that end up shut down. Disrespecting moderators and powerusers by insulting them ("landed gentry"), creating incentives for them to scab on each other, and being threatening and doublehanded at every turn, if not outright lying. Reddit not building the needed tools for its free labor and relying on third parties to do it for them, then taking those tools away without providing another option ![]()
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